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Post by S.T.A.R.S. 2 on Jun 15, 2009 8:48:37 GMT -5
Still nothing too good but it was the best movie out of them. The Tyrant in paticular was the best Viral Creature yet. Nemesis didn't even go into second form in Apocolaypse and Alice kicked the crap out of it pretty easily. This one though actually gave her a run for her money and was intelligent. The intelligent part though was a screw up. No matter how hard Umbrella tried they could not get their Tyrant projects that much intelligence which is one part on why it was screwy.
Another part is the Crows. Sure they do stay in a pack but it's four or five at the most and not gigantic like that. Last part of it that made it screwy was the entire Earth falling prey to the T-Virus. That's a bunch of bull and what really irritates me is the fact that the G-Virus still wasn't mentioned even though it should have been in Raccoon City.
I garuntee you that they don't plan to mention it in the other movie either. Genesis I believe it was called. Another one bound to be bad cause it strays way too far from Resident Evil.
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Post by Ashe on Jun 15, 2009 11:39:52 GMT -5
Still nothing too good but it was the best movie out of them. The Tyrant in paticular was the best Viral Creature yet. Nemesis didn't even go into second form in Apocolaypse and Alice kicked the crap out of it pretty easily. This one though actually gave her a run for her money and was intelligent. The intelligent part though was a screw up. No matter how hard Umbrella tried they could not get their Tyrant projects that much intelligence which is one part on why it was screwy.
Another part is the Crows. Sure they do stay in a pack but it's four or five at the most and not gigantic like that. Last part of it that made it screwy was the entire Earth falling prey to the T-Virus. That's a bunch of bull and what really irritates me is the fact that the G-Virus still wasn't mentioned even though it should have been in Raccoon City.
I garuntee you that they don't plan to mention it in the other movie either. Genesis I believe it was called. Another one bound to be bad cause it strays way too far from Resident Evil. I actually liked the movies quite a bit. The movies would have been horrible if they'd stuck strictly to the way the game played out. They proved this when they got George Romero to do the script for the first movie. It sucked. And if the "Godfather" of the zombie can't make a decent zombie movie out of the material, no one could. Romero after all did create the zombies that we all know and love. The movie's storyline was never meant to replace the storyline of the games. They were to be considered events that happened but weren't mentioned in the game. Can you imagine the bore fest that strictly following the games story line would have created... I shudder thinking of having to sit through something like that. You could look at Nemesis not changing form as he hadn't gotten that far into the transformation yet. Plus you have to remember, Matt was Nemesis in the movie, and he still had some minimal control, it is why Alice was able to defeat him so easily. Matt and Alice obviously had formed a close bond due to the situation they had both went through. Matt attempted to gain control from the beginning. As to your comment about the crows, you aren't taking into account that they were infected with the Tvirus, they wouldn't act like your normal crows. And the whole world falling prey to the virus is most likely pretty much how it would happen. It would spread quickly since it infects all living things. The chain reaction once set in motion would spiral out of control rather quickly. You should try to read the novelizations of the movies, they will fill in some of those areas you felt were lacking, like Nemesis. There were quite a few passages that illustrated Matt's struggle to gain control.
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Post by S.T.A.R.S. 2 on Jun 15, 2009 11:53:01 GMT -5
Well yeah that too. He didn't kill her when he was ordered but I still think it would've been cool if he transformed.
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Post by Spartan198 on Jun 15, 2009 14:36:48 GMT -5
Realistically, birds can flock in groups containing possibly thousands of specimens. A Playstation console (especially the PS1) can't simulate thousands of flocking birds.
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Post by S.T.A.R.S. 2 on Jun 15, 2009 14:38:23 GMT -5
Right.
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Post by Duality on Aug 14, 2009 3:25:19 GMT -5
Well, this film, really, wasn't the greatest. I enjoyed it while watching it, but I felt it had a lot of plotholes. I don't really buy the T-Virus taking over the world. I mean, not that I don't think it wouldn't spread through countries, I mean wiping out water and the vegetation. It seems a little too.....out there. It doesn't make sense to me since to me that something that affects humans in such a way would have the same affect on plants and the like. I feel that the zombies living forever is silly as well. Mostly because if the body is dead, how is it sustaining itself? I liked the idea presented in the SD Perry novelizations, that after awhile the body dies out and falls apart. But anyway, I digress. I still love and bought the movie.
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Post by Ashe on Aug 14, 2009 6:42:03 GMT -5
Well, this film, really, wasn't the greatest. I enjoyed it while watching it, but I felt it had a lot of plotholes. I don't really buy the T-Virus taking over the world. I mean, not that I don't think it wouldn't spread through countries, I mean wiping out water and the vegetation. It seems a little too.....out there. It doesn't make sense to me since to me that something that affects humans in such a way would have the same affect on plants and the like. I feel that the zombies living forever is silly as well. Mostly because if the body is dead, how is it sustaining itself? I liked the idea presented in the SD Perry novelizations, that after awhile the body dies out and falls apart. But anyway, I digress. I still love and bought the movie. Well as I said in your intro, the way the infection spread is pretty much how things would work in real life. As a rule (but not always, but generally) viruses do not cross infect species. Something that makes say a dog sick, usually won't make a human sick. And I don't think I've ever heard of a virus that can infect all living things. And if there was something like that, the chances that it would affect them all the same way is slim to none. So just the mere fact that it can infect any living thing would mean that it would spread to the whole world and rather quickly. As to how long they could continue to move around, that would depend on the state of decomposition and whether or not they continue to rot while in zombie form. I don't think that aspect has ever been explored or questioned before.
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Post by tvirusandfriends on Aug 15, 2009 3:21:37 GMT -5
Well in the movie they did say they'd have to wait about forty somethin years for them to die out...and I'm guessing they mean most if not all the zombies. And as you said it would also depend on the rate of composition. And honestly, I don't know anything about how long it'd normally take a dead body to decompose so I can't really put in much input there.
As for drying the world out...I'm still not to sure on that. I guess it just seems a little to extreme to me. I'm sure it's possible...but killing plants and water? Seeing the effect the Tvirus has...wouldn't if just make things like Plant 42 or those other plant monsters? As for the water wouldn't it just make it toxic and life in it very dangerous?
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Post by Ashe on Aug 15, 2009 7:52:00 GMT -5
Well in the movie they did say they'd have to wait about forty somethin years for them to die out...and I'm guessing they mean most if not all the zombies. And as you said it would also depend on the rate of composition. And honestly, I don't know anything about how long it'd normally take a dead body to decompose so I can't really put in much input there. The length of time it takes for a body to decompose completely varies depending on the conditions of where they are buried. Hot and moist burials will decompose quicker than say hot and dry burials. And the length of time that it would take would most likely be affected by the mere fact that the virus reanimates them. I'm guessing that it would make them decompose slower, which is why it would take something like 40 years. As for drying the world out...I'm still not to sure on that. I guess it just seems a little to extreme to me. I'm sure it's possible...but killing plants and water? Seeing the effect the Tvirus has...wouldn't if just make things like Plant 42 or those other plant monsters? As for the water wouldn't it just make it toxic and life in it very dangerous? Oh it could happen. The effects of the mass extinctions that would be happening would vastly affect the environment. Since it affects all species nothing would be safe. Plants that depended on insects or other animals for the spreading of their seeds would die out because those animals or insects had died out. When those plants died out, oxygen levels would change as plants provide us with oxygen. Another problem with the plants dieing out would be the soil. It would end up like the "black blizzards" of the time during the great depression. Just think of it like a trickle down effect. Things would begin to deteriorate slowly at first, and then as more things became infected it would speed up and things would begin to deteriorate much quicker, until eventually the world would be left as a dead husk....
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Post by tvirusandfriends on Aug 15, 2009 21:59:15 GMT -5
Well what I meant is instead of killing every thing, wouldn't the bugs grow in size like they did in the games? Frogs turn into Lurkers...like that. But then again those were made in labs, so there's no real way of knowing what'd it'd actually do and how it'd effect them uncontrolled...And I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just going under the impression that the T-virus kills it's victim then re animates it's cells. But then again it'd be hard to do that with plants and water huh? Your the nurse, your biology knowledge is better than mine.
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Post by Ashe on Aug 16, 2009 6:31:35 GMT -5
Well what I meant is instead of killing every thing, wouldn't the bugs grow in size like they did in the games? Frogs turn into Lurkers...like that. But then again those were made in labs, so there's no real way of knowing what'd it'd actually do and how it'd effect them uncontrolled...And I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just going under the impression that the T-virus kills it's victim then re animates it's cells. But then again it'd be hard to do that with plants and water huh? Your the nurse, your biology knowledge is better than mine. I believe that the insects and frogs and such that grew huge were a result of being purposely turned into those creatures. But that isn't to say that increased size in insects and animals couldn't be part of the process of turning. That is a good point on the decomposition. It is possible that decomposition would be affected if someone were alive when infected. Since the virus begins attacking the body right away, it may act on a live person in way similar to contracting gangrene from an infected wound.
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Post by tvirusandfriends on Aug 17, 2009 3:45:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I really didn't get that last part.
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Post by Ashe on Aug 17, 2009 6:18:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I really didn't get that last part. Well when you die, your body starts the process of decomposing almost immediately. A big part of how quickly the body decomposes depends on the weather conditions and the type of embalming (If any, some religions don't allow it.) Hot and wet burials tend to decompose much faster than cool and dry condition burials. This is why sometimes in places like Egypt they find mummified remains when no real mummification process was used. They are "natural" mummies. The Tvirus has the ability to affect both the dead and the living. To a dead person it merely reanimates them, and since they were dead to begin with, they were already decomposing and the Tviurs probably slows the process down. But when it is used on a living person, they seem to sicken and then die. The wounds appear to look and behave in similar fashion as gangrene or a severely infected wound. Gangrene is the death of body tissue due to the loss of blood supply to that tissue, sometimes permitting bacteria to invade it and accelerate its decay. So it's basically just the rotting of your flesh while living.
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Post by tvirusandfriends on Aug 18, 2009 4:23:20 GMT -5
Oh. Well yes that makes sense. And I didn't mean to point that out, it was an accident, lol.
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Post by Ashe on Aug 18, 2009 6:43:00 GMT -5
It was a good question and I'm sure others have wondered about it too.
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