is it possible?

[black monster]

OK as you all know in the past alchemist believed that they can change lead to gold. but they say that no one succeeded in creating it.

so here is the question

is it possible to do it?

[Ashe]

No, I don't believe it is. Many have tried, and as far as I know, no one was ever successful. If it could be done, then it surely someone would have leaked the story. But no one has. So I say, no it's not possible.

[Phoenix]

I agree. Not possible.. and for me thats probably a good thing.. gold would cause too many problems between people if it could easily be created. Well I think it would.. greed would become the norm.. as if it isn't already with some people.

[JMann]

The value of gold would shoot down if it could be so easily made.

[Spartan198]

Yeah, JMann's right. If it was that easy to create, it wouldn't be worth anything (unless the secret was known to only a few people in the world).

But if it ever was possible at one time in our past, the secret has long been lost, probably---most likely---never to be known again.

[black monster]

for me i believe that they actually succeeded to create that but in an indirect way. and i believe that anyone enters the kitchen and makes him/herself a cake did that

how is that possible?

i will tell you

back in the past gold was the expensive thing and lead was the cheapest. so if we changed that thought little bit it will be possible

in the past they said " i will change lead into gold "

lets change the gold and lead to there value

it will be like this

" i will change the cheapest thing into something expensive "

what do you think about it know?

[Ashe]

I don't quite know what to think.... It really doesn't make any sense to me. What are you talking about? Gold always has been valuable and expensive. It has long been a symbol of great wealth and was sought by those who wanted an outward appearance to show their wealth and power. So they haven't changed the values. Lead never was considered a great treasure, and gold never has been valued as something worthless. So your logic doesn't work.

[JMann]

It never makes sense. Usually when he talks, I take it as, 'gobildyguk' and all nonsense.

[black monster]

Oct 4, 2008 17:50:58 GMT -5 Ashe said:

I don't quite know what to think.... It really doesn't make any sense to me. What are you talking about? Gold always has been valuable and expensive. It has long been a symbol of great wealth and was sought by those who wanted an outward appearance to show their wealth and power. So they haven't changed the values. Lead never was considered a great treasure, and gold never has been valued as something worthless. So your logic doesn't work.

if lead was as you said then why did they used it instead of other substance such as iron or Copper?

my point of view about this is that sometimes buying the ingredients to cook a cake is much cheaper than buying a cake from the store.

becuse " things are not always what they seem " that goes for everything in this life. When the alchemists said " i will change lead into gold " they didn't ment it that way.

[tvirusandfriends]

Maybe its possible. We may not have the technology yet...

[Spartan198]

Oct 4, 2008 19:09:15 GMT -5 black monster said:

if lead was as you said then why did they used it instead of other substance such as iron or Copper?

my point of view about this is that sometimes buying the ingredients to cook a cake is much cheaper than buying a cake from the store.

becuse " things are not always what they seem " that goes for everything in this life. When the alchemists said " i will change lead into gold " they didn't ment it that way.

That doesn't make sense either.

[JMann]

Like I said, he never makes sense.

[Spartan198]

Oct 4, 2008 19:09:15 GMT -5 black monster said:

if lead was as you said then why did they used it instead of other substance such as iron or Copper?

Well, use iron or copper for what in particular? Iron and copper were used to make lots of things, like weapons, armor, coins, and tools. Gold wouldn't be suitable for those purposes.
The Colossus of Rhodes was built almost entirely out of bronze, which (as you may know) is made of two parts copper and one part tin.
Besides, what practical use would a golden sword be? It'd be too heavy to lift, for one, and it also wouldn't hold a cutting edge even if someone could life it. Golden armor wouldn't provide very much protection from bodily harm, not to mention it would be too heavy to even move in.

my point of view about this is that sometimes buying the ingredients to cook a cake is much cheaper than buying a cake from the store.

Since gold can't be made by human engineering, I fail to see how that comparison applies here.

becuse " things are not always what they seem " that goes for everything in this life. When the alchemists said " i will change lead into gold " they didn't ment it that way.

Metals like lead, copper, bronze, steel, and iron have always been prized for applications that gold and silver aren't suitable for. This isn't something that resulted from an alchemist's boast.

[Ashe]

Oct 4, 2008 19:09:15 GMT -5 black monster said:

Oct 4, 2008 17:50:58 GMT -5 Ashe said:

I don't quite know what to think.... It really doesn't make any sense to me. What are you talking about? Gold always has been valuable and expensive. It has long been a symbol of great wealth and was sought by those who wanted an outward appearance to show their wealth and power. So they haven't changed the values. Lead never was considered a great treasure, and gold never has been valued as something worthless. So your logic doesn't work.

if lead was as you said then why did they used it instead of other substance such as iron or Copper?

my point of view about this is that sometimes buying the ingredients to cook a cake is much cheaper than buying a cake from the store.

becuse " things are not always what they seem " that goes for everything in this life. When the alchemists said " i will change lead into gold " they didn't ment it that way.

That still doesn't make any sense. They did use iron and copper for armor and weapons. In fact they used iron more than they did copper and lead because iron is harder. Copper and lead are a softer metal as is gold. They aren't as durable and would have been used more for ceremonial purposes and show than actual use as weapons and armor.

In this case it is as it seems. I mean come on. Do you think that if they knew how to make gold that the secret could have been kept for so long? No it couldn't have been. And on the off chance that they did know how as Spartan said and the knowledge was lost, there most likely would be some kind of proof of it. The gold would have a different chemical make up. It would have easily been detected by someone appraising an object.

If I'm understanding you right, you are saying that they switched the values they placed on the substances. This isn't the case. Gold always has been viewed as something valuable. While lead, iron and copper have been valued as less. Like Spartan said, the use of gold in things like weapons wouldn't work because of the weight the objects would be. Gold, bronze and copper weapons were only for show for the most part. (Though bronze has been used in armor more than copper and gold.)

[tvirusandfriends]

Lets ask Fox Mulder lol. XD